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]]> By: Sam Newman http://www.magpiebrain.com/blog/2005/02/16/sun-on-mustang-j2se-60-squaring-up-to-net/#comment-631 Sam Newman Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:23:19 +0000 http://www.magpiebrain.com/2005/02/16/sun-on-mustang-j2se-60-squaring-up-to-net/#comment-631 Bad form old boy - haven't heard that name in a long while! Bad form old boy – haven’t heard that name in a long while!

]]> By: c95am http://www.magpiebrain.com/blog/2005/02/16/sun-on-mustang-j2se-60-squaring-up-to-net/#comment-630 c95am Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:49:37 +0000 http://www.magpiebrain.com/2005/02/16/sun-on-mustang-j2se-60-squaring-up-to-net/#comment-630 toofer? toofer?

]]> By: Josh http://www.magpiebrain.com/blog/2005/02/16/sun-on-mustang-j2se-60-squaring-up-to-net/#comment-629 Josh Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:46:04 +0000 http://www.magpiebrain.com/2005/02/16/sun-on-mustang-j2se-60-squaring-up-to-net/#comment-629 Most of these really seem like they should be 3rd party libraries, not features of the core. Just like nnevatie said, the JRE will soon be so bloated, few people (average users) will take the time to download it. Probably knew this was coming, when they decided to jump from verison 1.5 to 5.0 for marketing reasons. I was really hoping 1.5/5.0 was going to be the standard for future releases. Oh well, at least now I won't have to worry about eagerly awaiting for 6.0 Most of these really seem like they should be 3rd party libraries, not features of the core. Just like nnevatie said, the JRE will soon be so bloated, few people (average users) will take the time to download it.

Probably knew this was coming, when they decided to jump from verison 1.5 to 5.0 for marketing reasons. I was really hoping 1.5/5.0 was going to be the standard for future releases.

Oh well, at least now I won’t have to worry about eagerly awaiting for 6.0

]]> By: David Flanagan http://www.magpiebrain.com/blog/2005/02/16/sun-on-mustang-j2se-60-squaring-up-to-net/#comment-628 David Flanagan Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:44:07 +0000 http://www.magpiebrain.com/2005/02/16/sun-on-mustang-j2se-60-squaring-up-to-net/#comment-628 The Class File Specification Update was originally targeted at Tiger. When it slipped, they decided to include only the (substantial) class file changes necessary to support generics, enums and annotations. Still to be done, however are lifting some of the hard-wired limits (no more than 64K methods, for example) and allowing split verification like J2ME does. So there is still plenty for this jsr to do.... The Class File Specification Update was originally targeted at Tiger. When it slipped, they decided to include only the (substantial) class file changes necessary to support generics, enums and annotations.

Still to be done, however are lifting some of the hard-wired limits (no more than 64K methods, for example) and allowing split verification like J2ME does.

So there is still plenty for this jsr to do….

]]> By: Sam Newman http://www.magpiebrain.com/blog/2005/02/16/sun-on-mustang-j2se-60-squaring-up-to-net/#comment-627 Sam Newman Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:03:36 +0000 http://www.magpiebrain.com/2005/02/16/sun-on-mustang-j2se-60-squaring-up-to-net/#comment-627 I know - I found the exclusion of JSR 203 odd. There are still some no-brainer IO functionality that Java is lacking (such as the aforementioned ability to determine free disk space, better support for external processes etc.). For those interested, JSR 203 picks up where the original NIO work started - much of the content of JSR 203 was original scheduled to be in Tiger but was dropped due to time constraints. It includes such advanced features (note sarcasm) as the ability to set file permissions (swoon!) and support for symbolic links (gasp!). To be fair the mustang JSR does state that: "The final Mustang specification might not include all of these JSRs, and it might include some JSRs not listed here.", although the popular RFE's don't seem to be that fairly represented in the included JSR's. I know – I found the exclusion of JSR 203 odd. There are still some no-brainer IO functionality that Java is lacking (such as the aforementioned ability to determine free disk space, better support for external processes etc.). For those interested, JSR 203 picks up where the original NIO work started – much of the content of JSR 203 was original scheduled to be in Tiger but was dropped due to time constraints. It includes such advanced features (note sarcasm) as the ability to set file permissions (swoon!) and support for symbolic links (gasp!).

To be fair the mustang JSR does state that: “The final Mustang specification might not include all of these JSRs, and it might include some JSRs not listed here.”, although the popular RFE’s don’t seem to be that fairly represented in the included JSR’s.

]]> By: Erik http://www.magpiebrain.com/blog/2005/02/16/sun-on-mustang-j2se-60-squaring-up-to-net/#comment-626 Erik Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:54:20 +0000 http://www.magpiebrain.com/2005/02/16/sun-on-mustang-j2se-60-squaring-up-to-net/#comment-626 What about JSR 203 - More New I/O APIs for the JavaTM Platform ("NIO.2"). APIs for filesystem access, scalable asynchronous I/O operations, socket-channel binding and configuration, and multicast datagrams - stills seems to be slated for the 6.0 release. Would be nice to get a library during the process, as Doug made avaiable during 155... What about JSR 203 – More New I/O APIs for the JavaTM Platform (“NIO.2”).

APIs for filesystem access, scalable asynchronous I/O operations, socket-channel binding and configuration, and multicast datagrams – stills seems to be slated for the 6.0 release.

Would be nice to get a library during the process, as Doug made avaiable during 155…

]]> By: nnevatie http://www.magpiebrain.com/blog/2005/02/16/sun-on-mustang-j2se-60-squaring-up-to-net/#comment-625 nnevatie Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:41:04 +0000 http://www.magpiebrain.com/2005/02/16/sun-on-mustang-j2se-60-squaring-up-to-net/#comment-625 Aargh, for one, I would like the JDK/JRE to be modularized so that one does not have to download all the stuff(bloat) included therein. All this makes me sad really - with the Sun's really restrictive policy regarding customization of the re-distributable JRE (making a trimmed, lightweight JRE a part of your application distribution). Soon the JRE alone will weight 30MB. Really nice. Aargh, for one, I would like the JDK/JRE to be modularized so that one does not have to download all the stuff(bloat) included therein. All this makes me sad really – with the Sun’s really restrictive policy regarding customization of the re-distributable JRE (making a trimmed, lightweight JRE a part of your application distribution).

Soon the JRE alone will weight 30MB. Really nice.

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