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	<title>Comments on: The Spring&#160;Framework</title>
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	<link>http://www.magpiebrain.com/blog/2003/11/12/the-spring-framework/</link>
	<description>Sam Newman's blog</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Berlin Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.magpiebrain.com/blog/2003/11/12/the-spring-framework/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>Berlin Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try my tutorial.

http://www.newspiritcompany.com/withspring.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try my tutorial.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newspiritcompany.com/withspring.html"  rel="nofollow">http://www.newspiritcompany.com/withspring.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jez</title>
		<link>http://www.magpiebrain.com/blog/2003/11/12/the-spring-framework/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>Jez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the above seems to have been moved to http://www.jarchitect.org/web/document.php?id=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the above seems to have been moved to <a href="http://www.jarchitect.org/web/document.php?id=1"  rel="nofollow">http://www.jarchitect.org/web/document.php?id=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: R Olsen</title>
		<link>http://www.magpiebrain.com/blog/2003/11/12/the-spring-framework/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>R Olsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can find number of good "hello world" examples of spring at:

http://gabriel.jarchitect.org/spring/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can find number of good &#8220;hello world&#8221; examples of spring at:</p>
<p><a href="http://gabriel.jarchitect.org/spring/index.html"  rel="nofollow">http://gabriel.jarchitect.org/spring/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Newman</title>
		<link>http://www.magpiebrain.com/blog/2003/11/12/the-spring-framework/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2004 14:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, to summarise a few points at once:

* IoC is not new - its just plain good sense
* You don't need Spring or Pico to make IoC work, but it helps
* If you want to embed an IoC type container in your own code and use nothing apart from your own code, Pico is a good choice as its damn small
* If you want to use an IoC framework with third party API's, Spring is excellent

Hope that helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, to summarise a few points at once:</p>
<ul>
<li>IoC is not new &#8211; its just plain good sense</li>
<li>You don&#8217;t need Spring or Pico to make IoC work, but it helps</li>
<li>If you want to embed an IoC type container in your own code and use nothing apart from your own code, Pico is a good choice as its damn small</li>
<li>If you want to use an IoC framework with third party <acronym title="Application Programming Interface">API</acronym>&#8217;s, Spring is excellent</li>
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<p>Hope that helps!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Franz</title>
		<link>http://www.magpiebrain.com/blog/2003/11/12/the-spring-framework/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Franz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam,

What are your feelings about Spring now?  It has been 7 months?  I am a struts user and evaluting Spring for some future work.  I have found the concepts hard (being somewhat biased).

Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,</p>
<p>What are your feelings about Spring now?  It has been 7 months?  I am a struts user and evaluting Spring for some future work.  I have found the concepts hard (being somewhat biased).</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Newman</title>
		<link>http://www.magpiebrain.com/blog/2003/11/12/the-spring-framework/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I found that walkthrough recently. I would of prefered something which gave a 'block-diagram' view of the MVC arcitecture. Its making sense to me now - much of the confusion was bought about by the petclinic example that comes with the distribution. The problem is I'm historically a struts user, and struts user forms objects are very beasts. In Spring a form is almost doing the job of the action class as well. I'm thinking about renaming my Spring web-form's 'handlers' or something to avoid the confusion - dealing with 2 frameworks at work, and 2-3 completely different ones at home, is getting a bit much...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I found that walkthrough recently. I would of prefered something which gave a &#8216;block-diagram&#8217; view of the MVC arcitecture. Its making sense to me now &#8211; much of the confusion was bought about by the petclinic example that comes with the distribution. The problem is I&#8217;m historically a struts user, and struts user forms objects are very beasts. In Spring a form is almost doing the job of the action class as well. I&#8217;m thinking about renaming my Spring web-form&#8217;s &#8216;handlers&#8217; or something to avoid the confusion &#8211; dealing with 2 frameworks at work, and 2-3 completely different ones at home, is getting a bit much&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Yasuhiko</title>
		<link>http://www.magpiebrain.com/blog/2003/11/12/the-spring-framework/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Yasuhiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have you looked into the 'step-by-step' tutorial available at 
http://www.springframework.org/docs/MVC-step-by-step/Spring-MVC-step-by-step.html
?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have you looked into the &#8216;step-by-step&#8217; tutorial available at <br />
<a href="http://www.springframework.org/docs/MVC-step-by-step/Spring-MVC-step-by-step.html"  rel="nofollow">http://www.springframework.org/docs/MVC-step-by-step/Spring-MVC-step-by-step.html</a><br />
?</p>
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